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Re: Price Change Suggestions.

Post by Iron adam » Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:17 pm

arcane stream should be higher lol

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Re: Price Change Suggestions.

Post by Empty » Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:25 pm

custom whips too
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Re: Price Change Suggestions.

Post by Korasi2 » Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:48 pm

inquisitors prices should be changed

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Re: Price Change Suggestions.

Post by Jumping bug » Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:32 am

Empty wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:25 pmcustom whips too
My understanding is that donator store item prices are only changed by Mike or Rapsey.
Korasi2 wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:48 pm inquisitors prices should be changed
This will happen but it needs more time as the price is volatile. Once the price stabilizes, price suggestions will be made by current staff members for the newly implemented items.
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Re: Price Change Suggestions.

Post by Nazuths » Sun May 15, 2022 11:59 am

Twisted ancestral pieces should be at least the same price of regular ancestral.

Ancestral Hat should be more than 5-6.5B (current buy offer of 50B in G.E.), this should also change the twisted variant price respectively.

Dragon claws (i) / imbue kit should be priced higher, current highest buy offer in G.E. is 150B, 6-10B for dragon claws (i) in ::prices makes no sense at all, yelled many times, but no change to the price, very annoying.

The imbued Twisted Bow variants should all be at least the same price of a regular Twisted Bow, currently at 6B each while regular Twisted Bow at 300B.
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Re: Price Change Suggestions.

Post by Nazuths » Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:14 pm

Since alch values are independent of the item's price value, it would make more sense that alchables have a price value of their high alch value, in my opinion. Recently people have been using alchables to stake as well, making the items seem worth more than they really are.

Dagon'hai hat, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Dagon'hai robe top, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Dagon'hai robes, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M

Royal crown, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Royal shirt, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Royal leggings, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Royal sceptre, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Royal amulet, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M

Crystal bow, current price: 150M, requested price: 75M
Crystal shield, current price: 150M, requested price: 75M

Enchanted hat, current price: 60M, requested price: 30M
Enchanted top, current price: 60M, requested price: 30M
Enchanted robe, current price: 60M, requested price: 30M

Skeletal helm, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
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Re: Price Change Suggestions.

Post by Iron adam » Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:40 pm

Nazuths wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:14 pm Since alch values are independent of the item's price value, it would make more sense that alchables have a price value of their high alch value, in my opinion. Recently people have been using alchables to stake as well, making the items seem worth more than they really are.

Dagon'hai hat, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Dagon'hai robe top, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Dagon'hai robes, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M

Royal crown, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Royal shirt, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Royal leggings, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Royal sceptre, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Royal amulet, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M

Crystal bow, current price: 150M, requested price: 75M
Crystal shield, current price: 150M, requested price: 75M

Enchanted hat, current price: 60M, requested price: 30M
Enchanted top, current price: 60M, requested price: 30M
Enchanted robe, current price: 60M, requested price: 30M

Skeletal helm, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Damn thats crazy, when did that happen?

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Re: Price Change Suggestions.

Post by Raj » Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:43 pm

Iron adam wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:40 pm Damn thats crazy, when did that happen?
it was Nazuths' first (corrupt) move as a developer. trying to eliminate the competition from catching his ironman cash stack

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Re: Price Change Suggestions.

Post by Church » Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:24 pm

Nazuths wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:14 pm Since alch values are independent of the item's price value, it would make more sense that alchables have a price value of their high alch value, in my opinion. Recently people have been using alchables to stake as well, making the items seem worth more than they really are.

Dagon'hai hat, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Dagon'hai robe top, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Dagon'hai robes, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M

Royal crown, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Royal shirt, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Royal leggings, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Royal sceptre, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Royal amulet, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M

Crystal bow, current price: 150M, requested price: 75M
Crystal shield, current price: 150M, requested price: 75M

Enchanted hat, current price: 60M, requested price: 30M
Enchanted top, current price: 60M, requested price: 30M
Enchanted robe, current price: 60M, requested price: 30M

Skeletal helm, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
So I asked Rapsey what he thought about this as a policy for items that are essentially only used for alch and he had this to say:
Rapsey wrote:I do not entirely agree with the reasoning. Prices are meant to be a reflection of how much you'd have to pay to buy them from another player, which could be more than the alch value (because people are lazy so they won't bother selling it to you unless they can get a little more than just alching them). So yes, alch value will always serve as a minimum value (since no one will sell for less than they can alch) but it doesn't necessarily serve as a max value.

In short: it should still be judged based on player trades, like any other item. So in the case of Dagon'hai for example I agree they should not be 100M-100M but based on the transaction logs I would put them on 50M-75M or something, not 50M-50M.
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Re: Price Change Suggestions.

Post by Nazuths » Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:26 pm

Church wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:24 pm
Nazuths wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:14 pm Since alch values are independent of the item's price value, it would make more sense that alchables have a price value of their high alch value, in my opinion. Recently people have been using alchables to stake as well, making the items seem worth more than they really are.

Dagon'hai hat, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Dagon'hai robe top, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Dagon'hai robes, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M

Royal crown, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Royal shirt, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Royal leggings, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Royal sceptre, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
Royal amulet, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M

Crystal bow, current price: 150M, requested price: 75M
Crystal shield, current price: 150M, requested price: 75M

Enchanted hat, current price: 60M, requested price: 30M
Enchanted top, current price: 60M, requested price: 30M
Enchanted robe, current price: 60M, requested price: 30M

Skeletal helm, current price: 100M, requested price: 50M
So I asked Rapsey what he thought about this as a policy for items that are essentially only used for alch and he had this to say:
Rapsey wrote:I do not entirely agree with the reasoning. Prices are meant to be a reflection of how much you'd have to pay to buy them from another player, which could be more than the alch value (because people are lazy so they won't bother selling it to you unless they can get a little more than just alching them). So yes, alch value will always serve as a minimum value (since no one will sell for less than they can alch) but it doesn't necessarily serve as a max value.

In short: it should still be judged based on player trades, like any other item. So in the case of Dagon'hai for example I agree they should not be 100M-100M but based on the transaction logs I would put them on 50M-75M or something, not 50M-50M.
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