Arrsenic and PKH

[Lykos]

Already learned the hard way that PKH doesn't reward those who reports dupes or rwt unless it's part of a bughunt.
You do it for the good of the server, not for the prize you receive.

Historically, people have been rewarded for reporting dupes, so do report dupes don't aboos!

I have been removed from history I suppose... They were dark times with @Iron adam...
I'd rather have the entire server economy be saved from the dupe I discovered versus being salty over a reward I never received.

[Masteel]

You left out the part where I told you we don't do rewards.

This was before you even spoke to Arrsenic:


And this was 1 hour before you sent your evidence to Arrsenic:


So don't go acting like you didn't know. You were literally told by the owner of the server. Then you decided to send the evidence anyway.

Arsenic had confirmed a reward will be given after the date mentioned, it wasn't 1hour before the evidence provided to Arrsenic.

Once again, if your staff member does confirm something which is not then done, who should be held accountable? Hasn't Arrsenic already had way too many chances, if Arseenic had not confirmed a reward will be given, do you think I would have made this thread?

[Ryan]

You missed a few very important key points in this post. Which I'll kindly outline for you below.

1. You are the full banned player "Actual". I re-banned your account less than a week ago, obviously you avoided it and thought by making a new discord and game account that I wouldn't notice. You're not welcome on PKHonor to begin with.

2. I said, in very simple words when asked, "No, we do not give out rewards for players posting a report". I'm not sure why you're pretending I didn't reply to you? We quite literally had an argument about how I refused to give you a reward for it? I believe you responded with something along the lines of "Staff clearly don't care about their players" and logged out.

3. You've actively been involved in real world trading well over 5+ times, each time you've been removed from the community. You beg and plead a sorry sob story that you've grown up and learned your lesson, but here we are back in the same situation, 5 years later. Once again involved in real world trading. You will never learn, and that is exactly why we don't let you play.

So the long and the short of it, no. You're not getting a reward. You're getting banned.

Good day.

[Masteel]

You missed a few very important key points in this post. Which I'll kindly outline for you below.

1. You are the full banned player "Actual". I re-banned your account less than a week ago, obviously you avoided it and thought by making a new discord and game account that I wouldn't notice. You're not welcome on PKHonor to begin with.

2. I said, in very simple words when asked, "No, we do not give out rewards for players posting a report". I'm not sure why you're pretending I didn't reply to you? We quite literally had an argument about how I refused to give you a reward for it? I believe you responded with something along the lines of "Staff clearly don't care about their players" and logged out.

3. You've actively been involved in real world trading well over 5+ times, each time you've been removed from the community. You beg and plead a sorry sob story that you've grown up and learned your lesson, but here we are back in the same situation, 5 years later. Once again involved in real world trading. You will never learn, and that is exactly why we don't let you play.

So the long and the short of it, no. You're not getting a reward. You're getting banned.

Good day.

1. I've never been banned on PKH, please can you show me evidence of this?

2. You only mentioned no reward is given once I had provided evidence of the user trying to sell gold

3. I have never had a RWT case, this is the first time I have reported a player for trying to sell gold.

4. If I'm a player who's "full banned" should the user who's been banned, be allowed to play? You're claiming I'm a player who isn't supposed to be playing?

[Rapsey]

Arsenic had confirmed a reward will be given after the date mentioned, it wasn't 1hour before the evidence provided to Arrsenic.

Oh yes, it was exactly 1 hour before. I was chatting with Arrsenic 1 hour later as you decided to send him the evidence so I got to hear about it in real-time. If you insist I can post the relevant screenshots so you can compare the timestamps, and I'm sure he'd be happy to do the same. Or you could just look at your own chat history I guess.

In this thread: greed and opportunism. And popcorn.

[Masteel]

Arsenic had confirmed a reward will be given after the date mentioned, it wasn't 1hour before the evidence provided to Arrsenic.

Oh yes, it was exactly 1 hour before. I was chatting with Arrsenic 1 hour later as you decided to send him the evidence so I got to hear about it in real-time. If you insist I can post the relevant screenshots so you can compare the timestamps, and I'm sure he'd be happy to do the same. Or you could just look at your own chat history I guess.

In this thread: greed and opportunism. And popcorn.

You could say the same for Arrsenic? He could have baited me into saying a reward will be given for his benefit? Now that Flodder has been banned it will benefit Arrsenic the most.

Maybe that's why he said a reward will be given?

You said it yourself, this has only benefited arsenic, right?

[Stale fish1]

Yes, I have spoken to Raspey and he has advised that Arsennic should have not confirmed a reward will be given. However, I believe it's PKH responsibility if a staff member does confirm such a thing, then they should be held liable.

Man shut up already, ive handed you pvming gear worth od 13b so u can start your pkh journey as a reward for the trust you put in me.
Lmao, stop trying to gain reward for reporting a crime.
You asked me for 2 trillion before even sending any proof then you said "ill do what you told.me to do which is reporting it out of goodwill for the own good of the server", doubt goodwill seeks anything in return when its done.

Start my journey? You know the numbers what were mentioned before the proof was provided.
All of a sudden, you changed your tune once the player had been banned - "Stop trying to gain a reward for reporting a crime", the same reward you confirmed which will be consulted with PKH team? As a mod it's very important you stick to your words, as players will see you as a trusted member of the community.

You stated that the 13B was for the trust, not for the reward for getting the player banned. PS you and I lknow that the 13b was a slap in the face.

Gotta agree here. Arrs has no right going around offering a "reward" for it to only be shut down as soon as the proof is handed over.. sounds like someone was trying to get some credit back after some previous actions.

Anyway gj on doing the right thing masteel

[Masteel]

Man shut up already, ive handed you pvming gear worth od 13b so u can start your pkh journey as a reward for the trust you put in me.
Lmao, stop trying to gain reward for reporting a crime.
You asked me for 2 trillion before even sending any proof then you said "ill do what you told.me to do which is reporting it out of goodwill for the own good of the server", doubt goodwill seeks anything in return when its done.

Start my journey? You know the numbers what were mentioned before the proof was provided.
All of a sudden, you changed your tune once the player had been banned - "Stop trying to gain a reward for reporting a crime", the same reward you confirmed which will be consulted with PKH team? As a mod it's very important you stick to your words, as players will see you as a trusted member of the community.

You stated that the 13B was for the trust, not for the reward for getting the player banned. PS you and I lknow that the 13b was a slap in the face.

Gotta agree here. Arrs has no right going around offering a "reward" for it to only be shut down as soon as the proof is handed over.. sounds like someone was trying to get some credit back after some previous actions.

Anyway gj on doing the right thing masteel

Thanks dude! That's exactly how I feel, if the reward was not promised, then this thread would have never been made.

Should PKH staff not take responsibility for the actions of Arrsenic? We're always quick to PUNISH regular players for their actions, why is it different for staff? I can see why PKH is on the decline. Most of the successful servers look out for the players, not the other way around.

[Nazuths]

Should PKH staff not take responsibility for the actions of Arrsenic? We're always quick to PUNISH regular players for their actions, why is it different for staff? I can see why PKH is on the decline. Most of the successful servers look out for the players, not the other way around.

[Rapsey]

Gotta agree here. Arrs has no right going around offering a "reward" for it to only be shut down as soon as the proof is handed over.. sounds like someone was trying to get some credit back after some previous actions.

Anyway gj on doing the right thing masteel

I agree that Arrsenic shouldn't have said anything about a reward. As soon as he said it he came to me asking if he could give a reward for it. I told him we don't do rewards for reporting people and that he shouldn't have said that. Then, and because of this, I told Masteel explicitly that no one does rewards for this. And then he decided to send the evidence anyway. Probably because Flodder scammed him in the past and he wanted to get him banned, reward or no reward.

But why stop trying as long as you have a straw to grasp at.

This thread makes it perfectly clear that it's not about reprimanding Arrsenic for saying something he shouldn't have said without confirming it first. It's all about using that as leverage to get a reward, even though he knew full well that there wouldn't be one. That one misstep gives him an excuse, something to justify getting the special treatment he's been pursuing from the start.