Chambers of Xeric - Purples

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What changes to the Chambers of Xeric, regarding purple chests, would you like to see?

Change the variables that determine the chance at a purple (currently 8,676 points = 1% chance, capped at 570,000 points (65.70%)), comment your proposed changes.
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17%
Allow droprate boosting items to add an invisible point boost equal to their respective % of droprate increase, 10,000 points becomes 11,300 points for ex-ex parrot (times 1.13).
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62%
Add a consumable to the Vote store which increases the amount of points by a percentage X, can buy multiple, capped at 10 maximum.
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11%
Nothing needs to be changed, it's fine as is.
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7%
Other, leave your feedback below.
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3%
 
Total votes: 71

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Re: Chambers of Xeric - Purples

Post by Snapzhot » Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:25 pm

I'm getting extremely specific here in a black box scenario, so I apologize if I'm also completely wrong.


'm not sure what you mean, the points are capped at 570,000, which is a 65.70% chance at a purple, any point beyond the 570,000 will count towards the chance for a second purple.
I can verify that the probability for each table when a purple is rolled, is independent of each other.
I guess I assumed that by the drops being independent, each table gets rolled independently and there would be a chance of multiples ( bad ) and require resolving to choose the final drop ( bias )

But maybe you are hinting more along the lines of a single weighted list of all the rewards and a single rolled number retrieving the item from that list. (good)

Again, this is black box for me. So in these scenario's I might be missing a key piece of information, but still find this stuff interesting to understand. And I'm also basing it off the 27 scrolls, 2 dhcb and 3 bucklers our clan received.
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Re: Chambers of Xeric - Purples

Post by Kenneth » Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:39 am

Snapzhot wrote: Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:13 pm It might be good to compare the drops to existing drops like a scythe,
A scythe is obtained statically every 170 raids in TOB.

The math I use is that a COX raid grants approximately a 4% unique per person. The bow is then an 2% chance from that original chance. This means every 1250 raids statistically a bow enters the game.

I think (whilst not entirely fair) comparing these two drop rates, it's pretty evident more than just lucky pets should be implemented to have some level of circulating end game content.
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Re: Chambers of Xeric - Purples

Post by Sgt salty » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:03 am

I think a flat buff to rates would be much better than drop increasing items. Ironman can not vote their way to a parrot and must obtain it from other sources, thus being forced to wear a ring of wealth within the cave if they haven't obtained it. Also, the buff provided by the ring/pet is not enough of a boost in my opinion to the purple rates. I would suggest increasing the base rates from 3.5% per 30k points to 5% every 30k points (roughly 1% chance every 6000 points instead of every 8676).
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Re: Chambers of Xeric - Purples

Post by Black0utz » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:24 am

JUST BUFF THE DROP RATES MY MAN NAZOOOOOOOTS, MAKE IT SIMILAR TO TOBBBBBBB

ITS A PRIVATE SERVER, WHAT'S THE POINT OF DROP RATES BEING SO LOW? WHO WOULD PK WITH ANCESTRAL IF THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO LOSE IT AND NOT BEING ABLE TO BUY BACK OR PVM TO GET ANOTHER ONE CONSIDERING IT TAKES FOREVER EVA


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Re: Chambers of Xeric - Purples

Post by Stale fish1 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:08 am

Black0utz wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:24 am JUST BUFF THE DROP RATES MY MAN NAZOOOOOOOTS, MAKE IT SIMILAR TO TOBBBBBBB

ITS A PRIVATE SERVER, WHAT'S THE POINT OF DROP RATES BEING SO LOW? WHO WOULD PK WITH ANCESTRAL IF THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO LOSE IT AND NOT BEING ABLE TO BUY BACK OR PVM TO GET ANOTHER ONE CONSIDERING IT TAKES FOREVER EVA


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Re: Chambers of Xeric - Purples

Post by Sgt salty » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:04 pm

Kenneth wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:39 am
Snapzhot wrote: Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:13 pm It might be good to compare the drops to existing drops like a scythe,
A scythe is obtained statically every 170 raids in TOB.

The math I use is that a COX raid grants approximately a 4% unique per person. The bow is then an 2% chance from that original chance. This means every 1250 raids statistically a bow enters the game.

I think (whilst not entirely fair) comparing these two drop rates, it's pretty evident more than just lucky pets should be implemented to have some level of circulating end game content.
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That 4% is assuming deathless and the 1250 raids is assuming solos. Most people run trios or near it so it is more like every 417 raids without +1/+2ing. Still a ton of raids. Lucky pet/ring would barely put a dent in that.

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Re: Chambers of Xeric - Purples

Post by The underdog » Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:54 am

Sgt salty wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:03 am I think a flat buff to rates would be much better than drop increasing items. Ironman can not vote their way to a parrot and must obtain it from other sources, thus being forced to wear a ring of wealth within the cave if they haven't obtained it. Also, the buff provided by the ring/pet is not enough of a boost in my opinion to the purple rates. I would suggest increasing the base rates from 3.5% per 30k points to 5% every 30k points (roughly 1% chance every 6000 points instead of every 8676).
Facts.

Fuck outa here with all extra items and rituals for better loot chances in a minigame. Option 3 is ass esp. Base rate up a tad bit and we good, or up hella fine with me too.
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